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	<title>Comments on: EFT And The Placebo Effect</title>
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		<title>By: Dr Martin Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13722</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Martin Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My best analysis of EFT is that it is what in NLP terms would be called a "collapse anchors". This is not distraction, nor a placebo (which is a very loose term for a number of different mechanisms.)

That's what my post is about "EFT Is Bunkum? - Part 2" - http://www.drmartinrussell.com/?p=54

And yes B12 is absolutely necessary to treat the malabsorption problem of pernicious anemia or in people who are lacking meat in their diet, but for the general population it is of no physiological benefit - but harmless and a great placebo :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best analysis of EFT is that it is what in NLP terms would be called a &#8220;collapse anchors&#8221;. This is not distraction, nor a placebo (which is a very loose term for a number of different mechanisms.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what my post is about &#8220;EFT Is Bunkum? - Part 2&#8243; - <a href="http://www.drmartinrussell.com/?p=54" rel="nofollow">http://www.drmartinrussell.com/?p=54</a></p>
<p>And yes B12 is absolutely necessary to treat the malabsorption problem of pernicious anemia or in people who are lacking meat in their diet, but for the general population it is of no physiological benefit - but harmless and a great placebo <img src='http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cockrum</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13687</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Cockrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Martin,

I don't know whether EFT is a placebo or not.  I do wish more research would be done to learn to take advantage of the placebo effect since it does lead to positive changes in a large group of people. I have my suspicions that those same people would test as more susceptible to  hypnosis than a control group.

Your example of a red placebo having a stimulating effect while a blue one has a sedative effect seems to correlate with this as red in general has a stimulating effect on people, while blue is calming. 

I don't understand your colleague using B12 injections because he/she thought it was harmless. My understanding is that it is a common treatment for pernicious anemia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Martin,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether EFT is a placebo or not.  I do wish more research would be done to learn to take advantage of the placebo effect since it does lead to positive changes in a large group of people. I have my suspicions that those same people would test as more susceptible to  hypnosis than a control group.</p>
<p>Your example of a red placebo having a stimulating effect while a blue one has a sedative effect seems to correlate with this as red in general has a stimulating effect on people, while blue is calming. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand your colleague using B12 injections because he/she thought it was harmless. My understanding is that it is a common treatment for pernicious anemia.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Martin Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13614</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Martin Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick,

Sorry to not get back to you much sooner.

Excellent to see the discussion you have around this post. As you commented on my blog this study raises some vital issues about EFT.

Attention Gary Craig - this study was published in 2003. It's in Wikipedia. You must know about it, so where is your response?

Also, just to clear up about placebo because I do not believe EFT is a placebo. 

The current medically best placebo is a surgical operation, followed by an injection, then a tablet (the bigger the better.) Oh and blue injections and pills are better sedatives, and red placebos are stimulants, so you have to ask placebo for what desired effect?

When I left medical practice the favorite treatment for tiredness / depression by one of the doctors in the clinic was a Vitamin B12 injection. It has almost no side effects (ie only needle bruising) but produces 2 outcomes in normal people. First it creates expensive urine as all the B12 is pissed straight out within days, and second it comes as a red liquid injection so it is the ideal quick placebo.

Keep rattling the fences Rick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick,</p>
<p>Sorry to not get back to you much sooner.</p>
<p>Excellent to see the discussion you have around this post. As you commented on my blog this study raises some vital issues about EFT.</p>
<p>Attention Gary Craig - this study was published in 2003. It&#8217;s in Wikipedia. You must know about it, so where is your response?</p>
<p>Also, just to clear up about placebo because I do not believe EFT is a placebo. </p>
<p>The current medically best placebo is a surgical operation, followed by an injection, then a tablet (the bigger the better.) Oh and blue injections and pills are better sedatives, and red placebos are stimulants, so you have to ask placebo for what desired effect?</p>
<p>When I left medical practice the favorite treatment for tiredness / depression by one of the doctors in the clinic was a Vitamin B12 injection. It has almost no side effects (ie only needle bruising) but produces 2 outcomes in normal people. First it creates expensive urine as all the B12 is pissed straight out within days, and second it comes as a red liquid injection so it is the ideal quick placebo.</p>
<p>Keep rattling the fences Rick!</p>
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		<title>By: The Personal Development Carnival</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13301</link>
		<dc:creator>The Personal Development Carnival</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Personal Development Carnival - October 28, 2007 Edition&lt;/strong&gt;




Welcome to the October 28, 2007 edition of The Personal Development Carnival!
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Wenchypoo presents An Investment in Life and the Family Orchard posted at Wisdom From Wenchypoo&#8217;s Mental Wastebasket.
Brad Bollenbach presents Finding Your P...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Personal Development Carnival - October 28, 2007 Edition</strong></p>
<p>Welcome to the October 28, 2007 edition of The Personal Development Carnival!<br />
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Wenchypoo presents An Investment in Life and the Family Orchard posted at Wisdom From Wenchypoo&#8217;s Mental Wastebasket.<br />
Brad Bollenbach presents Finding Your P&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike DeWitt</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13225</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

I'll see what I can find.  I encountered the material pre-internet days, but I'm sure with some creative searching I can find something!

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see what I can find.  I encountered the material pre-internet days, but I&#8217;m sure with some creative searching I can find something!</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cockrum</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13212</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Cockrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,

I wasn't ignoring you. I saw your comment, then let myself get sidetracked.

If you could point me in the direction of some of that work I would appreciate it. I ran a couple of searches and didn't find anything directly relevant. It sounds like interesting work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t ignoring you. I saw your comment, then let myself get sidetracked.</p>
<p>If you could point me in the direction of some of that work I would appreciate it. I ran a couple of searches and didn&#8217;t find anything directly relevant. It sounds like interesting work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike DeWitt</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13207</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

I've read studies that show a connection between cognition and motor activity, be it pacing or tapping a finger/pencil/foot.  I can't believe I didn't make the connection until I read your comment.  Of course!  The tapping, particularly on your face, is going to provide that boost and a focusing effect that helps one do the mental work of addressing the emotional issue.

Thanks,

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read studies that show a connection between cognition and motor activity, be it pacing or tapping a finger/pencil/foot.  I can&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t make the connection until I read your comment.  Of course!  The tapping, particularly on your face, is going to provide that boost and a focusing effect that helps one do the mental work of addressing the emotional issue.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Cockrum</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13178</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Cockrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Renee,

It's good to hear from you again!

I would be interested in hearing your results with EFT. Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Renee,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to hear from you again!</p>
<p>I would be interested in hearing your results with EFT. Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Renée</title>
		<link>http://www.shardsofconsciousness.com/2007/10/eft-and-the-placebo-effect/#comment-13161</link>
		<dc:creator>Renée</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long time no talk, Ric! And Hi!

I've yet to fully immerse myself on the topic of EFT, but I've to say that any alternative therapy is geared towards energy healing.  After all, we are all energy beings. 

Base on the information above, it seems to me that EFT is a combination of affirmation and energy healing.

There is no denying that these two powerful combinations work wonders but TRUE healing comes when we work from within--much within. Cell (DNA) healing.     

Having said, I will read more about EFT and experiment it on my clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long time no talk, Ric! And Hi!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve yet to fully immerse myself on the topic of EFT, but I&#8217;ve to say that any alternative therapy is geared towards energy healing.  After all, we are all energy beings. </p>
<p>Base on the information above, it seems to me that EFT is a combination of affirmation and energy healing.</p>
<p>There is no denying that these two powerful combinations work wonders but TRUE healing comes when we work from within&#8211;much within. Cell (DNA) healing.     </p>
<p>Having said, I will read more about EFT and experiment it on my clients.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Follow-up to EFT and the Placebo Effect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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